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	<title>Comments on: Are eneloop Batteries Too Good to be True?  Nope!</title>
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		<title>By: Mike Sweeney</title>
		<link>http://learnwithbetsy.com/2009/eneloop-batteries-too-good-to-be-true/comment-page-1#comment-2563</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Sweeney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:03:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One mistake but a little known one is that the Duracell brand of NiMH cells have excessive internal resistance which causes them to have a much shorter life span (charge) then almost any other major brand I&#039;ve tested. The as common &quot;Eveready&quot; will last longer by a fair margin. Neither will work as well as the eeloops over time. Most of my 2600 mAh cells never charge to that level anyways.. they always fall short, sometimes by a lot and sometimes by a little. A another point of contention and little mentioned is that the high capacity cells do not always fit quite right into some electronic bays. They are a bit fatter and sometimes a bit shorter than a normal lower capacity cell. The eeloops fit everything without fail. The Evereadys are close but sometimes a tight fit. I have some knockoffs that work but are a bit too short at times.

My Duracells have all been tossed in favor of Eveready and eeloops. I do a slow charge with an 8 slot  (two hour) soft charger and all have held up very well over the past year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One mistake but a little known one is that the Duracell brand of NiMH cells have excessive internal resistance which causes them to have a much shorter life span (charge) then almost any other major brand I&#8217;ve tested. The as common &#8220;Eveready&#8221; will last longer by a fair margin. Neither will work as well as the eeloops over time. Most of my 2600 mAh cells never charge to that level anyways.. they always fall short, sometimes by a lot and sometimes by a little. A another point of contention and little mentioned is that the high capacity cells do not always fit quite right into some electronic bays. They are a bit fatter and sometimes a bit shorter than a normal lower capacity cell. The eeloops fit everything without fail. The Evereadys are close but sometimes a tight fit. I have some knockoffs that work but are a bit too short at times.</p>
<p>My Duracells have all been tossed in favor of Eveready and eeloops. I do a slow charge with an 8 slot  (two hour) soft charger and all have held up very well over the past year.</p>
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		<title>By: Betsy Finn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Betsy Finn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 04:02:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eddie, the first test was done to simulate the eneloop&#039;s claim that the batteries can be used off-the-shelf, no matter when they were last charged.

The &quot;standard&quot; Ni-MH batteries I used were Duracell brand.  Brand new, and charged for the first time just prior to test #2.  Actually, the first time I charged the eneloop batteries was just prior to test #2 as well.

Chargers used -- I used the eneloop approved slow-charger for the eneloop batteries (as they&#039;re not &quot;approved&quot; for charging in standard chargers).  To charge the 2650 mAh batteries, I used an overnight charger (I am traveling right now, but I will find the specs when I am able).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eddie, the first test was done to simulate the eneloop&#8217;s claim that the batteries can be used off-the-shelf, no matter when they were last charged.</p>
<p>The &#8220;standard&#8221; Ni-MH batteries I used were Duracell brand.  Brand new, and charged for the first time just prior to test #2.  Actually, the first time I charged the eneloop batteries was just prior to test #2 as well.</p>
<p>Chargers used &#8212; I used the eneloop approved slow-charger for the eneloop batteries (as they&#8217;re not &#8220;approved&#8221; for charging in standard chargers).  To charge the 2650 mAh batteries, I used an overnight charger (I am traveling right now, but I will find the specs when I am able).</p>
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		<title>By: Eddie Clark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eddie Clark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 00:15:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve got some problems with your review.  The first test was done on partially charged batteries.  How can you quanitfy if it had a little or a lot of charge left?  I get the part about the eneloops needing a few recharge cycles for them to get their maximum charge, but the full drain versus partial drain is a bit confusing.

For the second test, it would be good to know which brand of nimh was used, were they brand new, a year old, how many charge cycles have they been subjected too, and which type of recharger was used?  I&#039;ve seen a fair amount of variance between 4 hour rechargers and quick chargers from different manufacturers between different nimh&#039;s.

As best I can tell, the only real advantage the eneloops have is better off the shelf charge.  I&#039;d never consider relying on batteries that have sat idle for weeks or months, but instead would recharge them the day before I used them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve got some problems with your review.  The first test was done on partially charged batteries.  How can you quanitfy if it had a little or a lot of charge left?  I get the part about the eneloops needing a few recharge cycles for them to get their maximum charge, but the full drain versus partial drain is a bit confusing.</p>
<p>For the second test, it would be good to know which brand of nimh was used, were they brand new, a year old, how many charge cycles have they been subjected too, and which type of recharger was used?  I&#8217;ve seen a fair amount of variance between 4 hour rechargers and quick chargers from different manufacturers between different nimh&#8217;s.</p>
<p>As best I can tell, the only real advantage the eneloops have is better off the shelf charge.  I&#8217;d never consider relying on batteries that have sat idle for weeks or months, but instead would recharge them the day before I used them.</p>
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